[SPOILER] Orochimaru, The Ultimate Bad Guy?

I don't know, mabye I am ranting here but, you know something? I just relized that even thought Orochimaru is long dead, every thing seems to Tie into Him some how, This is how it Breaks down.

Frist off, Orochimaru goes Crazy, This effects Jiraiya in his teaching of Pain, Pain, having lost faith is Jiraiyas world view, forms Akatsuki.
now on the Konoha side, Itachi knowing Madara's plan to use Akatsuki (once again being link through Pain from Jiraiya, from Orochimaru), Kills the Uchiha Clan, this throws Sasuke on to his path, and who does he meet there? Orochimaru. This effects Naruto greatly himself, and Jiraiya takes him (Pain's former Sensei), thus when Pain and Naruto meet, it is a clash not only of bodys, but of values built around actions directly or indirectly done by who? Orochimaru, EVERYTHING seems to be related to Orochimaru somehow. Wow does this make his the Ultimate Bad Guy or something.

did orochimaru have anything to do with the 12 guardians or the plot to destroy konoha and the hokage?

uhm tori you shouldve put like spoiler thing i think O,o not everyone reads the manga

the part where naruto and pain............

well anyways orochimaru isnt the baddest charectr,its his parents xD

did orochimaru have anything to do with the 12 guardians or the plot to destroy konoha and the hokage?

Y-your Joking Right?

well anyways orochimaru isnt the baddest charecter,its his parents xD

I don't think they ever real introduced his parents, just mentond them slightly.

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tori .... you fail ...
dont give spoilers + isnt that the wrong section for this??

anyway... though you call it a debate... better put it into anime forum
*moves*

>_< ah ya good point, should have at least put i in a Spoiler, oh well, whats done is done.

Torigoma wrote:

did orochimaru have anything to do with the 12 guardians or the plot to destroy konoha and the hokage?

Y-your Joking Right?

well anyways orochimaru isnt the baddest charecter,its his parents xD

I don't think they ever real introduced his parents, just mentond them slightly.

well while watching the anime Sora has had nothing to do with orchimaru so i guess not this time. but maybe later (because i havent watched that far he does) still reading the manga too lol

(wouldnt mind seeing orochimaru's parents involved in some dream episodes or something see why Orochimaru is how he is..

wouldnt mind seeing orochimaru's parents involved in some dream episodes or something see why Orochimaru is how he is

Me either, give us a little more back round on the guy.

yeah, i know there have been dream sequences showing of how Orochimaru practiced forbiddon jutsus and how he got let go by the 3rd hokage and showed how he was as a little boy.. i dont think he was ever happy...