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Ravings of a Mad White Man
by Torigoma Mon Mar 16, 2009 10:31 pm
Use this Topic for anything, if you have a Question about Theology, Maybe something that makes yo mad you want to discus, or just to Rave about completely random thing, but if Someone posses a Question, don't just leave it, try and answer it to the best of you ability or leave it to some else, This is a random Debate Topic, and subjects will change at the whim of the posters, Have fun.
*as for the name, I'm a mad white man and I gots stuff to say mwahahahah.
*as for the name, I'm a mad white man and I gots stuff to say mwahahahah.
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Re: Ravings of a Mad White Man
by AiKirikaX Tue Mar 17, 2009 1:22 am
but what if a mad black man wants to rave??? Ö_Ö
or red?? or yellow??
youre discriminating them with the topic title =O
lol
just wanted to say that XDXDXD
or red?? or yellow??
youre discriminating them with the topic title =O
lol
just wanted to say that XDXDXD
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Re: Ravings of a Mad White Man
by Torigoma Tue Mar 17, 2009 1:23 am
^_^ lol good Point, Kiri's got the Idea
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Re: Ravings of a Mad White Man
by Ayaname Tue Mar 17, 2009 2:02 am
Tori you are a Christian and religious right?
So my question is (as an atheist) how can you believe in all that?
Lets take Christ himself…about 2000 years before Christ their was an ancient Egyptian belief that a man named Hur was the son of the god Osiris and was born to a vergin, he walked on water healed the sick and blind and rose from the dead 3 days after he had die and all the people called him a messiah…
So my question is (as an atheist) how can you believe in all that?
Lets take Christ himself…about 2000 years before Christ their was an ancient Egyptian belief that a man named Hur was the son of the god Osiris and was born to a vergin, he walked on water healed the sick and blind and rose from the dead 3 days after he had die and all the people called him a messiah…
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Re: Ravings of a Mad White Man
by Torigoma Tue Mar 17, 2009 2:28 am
Show me were you got the Info, I'm Prety sure I know what you are talk about, but I'll have to confirm it.
There are Three Rules when have to do with ANY thing about a proto-Chirst story[a simler story about christ, before christ] (this is Because there have been many people who have falsafide documents about such story, yes there are genuine storys, but the majorty are fake)
Rule 1: Were did your Story come from, Was it from a Creitifed sorce? Such as a Historical Socity or a Museuim, or was it from a website with no ties to them or a obviously anit-christian site?, if it was from the Creitifed sorce, you can mostly trust it [very few tend to lie about it]), Your Source is your most Important item, remmber to ALWAYS have a good one or your Idea has no ground.
Rule 2: Is there a Older Story ? Many of the Prophets of God did the things Jesus did, and these are 4,000 to 5,000 years before Jesus, Moses parted the Red sea, One Stopped it raining for years (O_O I forget his name), Daniel slept in a Lion's Den, also many of them heal the sick and broken as well, and lets not forget the hunderds that were not named and the things they did, the only diffrence between them and Jesus was that God helped them, and Jesus WAS God. You have to realy be careful of this, exspecialy if the Storys come form the Middle east, as these are more than likely These Prophets of God seen by those that wrote it.
Rule 3: HOW Simlaer is it to the Christ Story, In Exsamples like the one you gave, chanses are it's fake, even if it was based off of a Simler story as above, the Chances of TWO Storys beening so Close together, after THOUSNDS of years is so remote that is is near imposable, the Only reaon the bible has survied is because it had be dilengently Preserved like no other book in History, who presevation is only riviled by the Hebrew Bible and the Qur'an, also There are subtle difference if you bother to read each story every closely, you'll see that, although the Storys are simler, they have Exstreme Diffreances. O_O sorry it took to Long, I gots Writes Cramp lol ^_^
There are Three Rules when have to do with ANY thing about a proto-Chirst story[a simler story about christ, before christ] (this is Because there have been many people who have falsafide documents about such story, yes there are genuine storys, but the majorty are fake)
Rule 1: Were did your Story come from, Was it from a Creitifed sorce? Such as a Historical Socity or a Museuim, or was it from a website with no ties to them or a obviously anit-christian site?, if it was from the Creitifed sorce, you can mostly trust it [very few tend to lie about it]), Your Source is your most Important item, remmber to ALWAYS have a good one or your Idea has no ground.
Rule 2: Is there a Older Story ? Many of the Prophets of God did the things Jesus did, and these are 4,000 to 5,000 years before Jesus, Moses parted the Red sea, One Stopped it raining for years (O_O I forget his name), Daniel slept in a Lion's Den, also many of them heal the sick and broken as well, and lets not forget the hunderds that were not named and the things they did, the only diffrence between them and Jesus was that God helped them, and Jesus WAS God. You have to realy be careful of this, exspecialy if the Storys come form the Middle east, as these are more than likely These Prophets of God seen by those that wrote it.
Rule 3: HOW Simlaer is it to the Christ Story, In Exsamples like the one you gave, chanses are it's fake, even if it was based off of a Simler story as above, the Chances of TWO Storys beening so Close together, after THOUSNDS of years is so remote that is is near imposable, the Only reaon the bible has survied is because it had be dilengently Preserved like no other book in History, who presevation is only riviled by the Hebrew Bible and the Qur'an, also There are subtle difference if you bother to read each story every closely, you'll see that, although the Storys are simler, they have Exstreme Diffreances. O_O sorry it took to Long, I gots Writes Cramp lol ^_^
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Re: Ravings of a Mad White Man
by Ayaname Tue Mar 17, 2009 4:07 am
just watch the movie "Religulous" and i hope you gain something from it.
the one that slept in the not david but it was daniel.
and another thing is that you say he was god but how can it be if to the jewish nation god said to us "you will have no other god before me"="לא יהיו לך אלוהים אחרים על פני".
and you have jeasus...AND "the holy spirit"...that's 3 gods in my book.
Rule 2: Is there a Older Story ? Many of the Prophets of God did the things Jesus did, and these are 4,000 to 5,000 years before Jesus, Moses parted the Red sea, One Stopped it raining for years (O_O I forget his name), David slepted in a Lions Den, also many of them heal the sick and broken as well, and lets not forget the hunderds that were not named and the things they did, the only diffrence between them and Jesus was that God helped them, Jesus WAS God. You have to realy be careful of this, exspecialy if the Storys come form the Middle east, as these are more than likely These Prophets of God seen by those that wrote it.
the one that slept in the not david but it was daniel.
and another thing is that you say he was god but how can it be if to the jewish nation god said to us "you will have no other god before me"="לא יהיו לך אלוהים אחרים על פני".
and you have jeasus...AND "the holy spirit"...that's 3 gods in my book.
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Re: Ravings of a Mad White Man
by Torigoma Tue Mar 17, 2009 4:28 am
Ayaname wrote:just watch the movie "Religulous" and i hope you gain something from it.the one that slept in the not david but it was daniel.Rule 2: Is there a Older Story ? Many of the Prophets of God did the things Jesus did, and these are 4,000 to 5,000 years before Jesus, Moses parted the Red sea, One Stopped it raining for years (O_O I forget his name), David slepted in a Lions Den, also many of them heal the sick and broken as well, and lets not forget the hunderds that were not named and the things they did, the only diffrence between them and Jesus was that God helped them, Jesus WAS God. You have to realy be careful of this, exspecialy if the Storys come form the Middle east, as these are more than likely These Prophets of God seen by those that wrote it.
and another thing is that you say he was god but how can it be if to the jewish nation god said to us "you will have no other god before me"="לא יהיו לך אלוהים אחרים על פני".
and you have jeasus...AND "the holy spirit"...that's 3 gods in my book.
O_O ya thanks, Like I said, I am very bad with names lol, Don't realy know why.
The Trinity is Complicated, They are three Beings, God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit. God the Father is competely God, God the Son is Competelty God, and God the Holy Spirit is Compelelty God, but they are not three DIFFRENT gods, They are the SAME God, How can this be? Personily I have a Idea, But I do not think I could put into word (can't realy write THAT well), But these People Put it very well
Q: "What about the doctrine of the Trinity, the Holy Trinity?"
A: "Trinity" is a term that is not found in the Bible but a word used to describe what is apparent about God in the scriptures. The Bible clearly speaks of God the Father, God the Son (Jesus Christ), and God the Holy Spirit...and also clearly presents that there is only one God. Thus the term: "Tri" meaning three, and "Unity" meaning one, Tri+Unity = Trinity. It is a way of acknowledging what the Bible reveals to us about God, that God is yet three "Persons" who have the same essence of deity.
Some have tried to give human illustrations for the Trinity, such as H2O being water, ice and steam (all different forms, but all are H2O). Another illustration is an egg having a shell, egg yolk and egg white, but this egg illustration shows that there would be "parts" to God, which isn't the case.
God the Son (Jesus) is fully, completely God. God the Father is fully, completely God. And God the Holy Spirit is fully, completely God. Yet there is only one God. In our world, with our limited human experience, it's tough to understand the Trinity. But from the beginning we see God this way in scripture. Notice the plural pronouns "us" and "our" in Genesis 1:26 -- Then God said, "Let us make man in our image, in our likeness, and let them rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air, over the livestock, over all the earth, and over all the creatures that move along the ground."
Countiuned on http://www.everystudent.com/forum/trinity.html?gclid=CNOosO2hqJkCFQpinAodymxWqA if you a REALY intrested in the subject, can this is not just a Burner question (if it is we are ending it here)
Bascily what they are saying is God is not Three God's, but ONE God that has chose to show himself to us in THREE WAYS!
Here is a Good Picture that give a Idea of it
Heres another one, I real don't Like this one, But I like the Math consept of it.
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Re: Ravings of a Mad White Man
by Torigoma Tue Mar 17, 2009 4:51 am
Ayaname wrote:just watch the movie "Religulous" and i hope you gain something from it.
Religulous Realy? lol, no I'm Sorry, but realy, that movie was Complete bogwash (O_O yes I Still use that word), This movie was What was ridiculuos, this Not even a Documentary, it was a basher movie, In a real Documentary, it takes one Idea, presents BOTH Points of Veiw (or more) and Presents them in a Completey Neutral way, this way it is up to the VEIWER to Deside what is right, and not for the maker to TELL them what it is (and I know what you are gona to say, and Yes, I have Studyed and I have Chosen what I Belive), One Should Study ALL points of veiw before come to a conclustion of Any Subject, if you do not, then all that is happeing is that you are going on what someone else told you, instead to what you know.
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Re: Ravings of a Mad White Man
by Ayaname Tue Mar 17, 2009 5:32 am
Religulous Realy? lol, no I'm Sorry, but realy, that movie was Complete bogwash (O_O yes I Still use that word), This movie was What was ridiculuos, this Not even a Documentary, it was a basher movie, In a real Documentary, it takes one Idea, presents BOTH Points of Veiw (or more) and Presents them in a Completey Neutral way, this way it is up to the VEIWER to Deside what is right, and not for the maker to TELL them what it is (and I know what you are gona to say, and Yes, I have Studys and I have Chosen what I Belive), One Should Study ALL points of veiw before come to a conclustion of Any Subject, if you do not, then all that is happeing is that you are going on what someone else told you, instead to what you know.
well that movie was intended to question religion but not for ppl who already question it but to ppl who have that "faith" and because of that he put mostly one side in his movie(cuz you already know the other side^^).
now as for what u posted with the chart and all...im so sorry but as a freaking jew (but i have no faith in god as you believe in him) that is completely wrong to what he stated in the bible.
he chose to show himself in three ways?...you know what that maybe i can agree with but the fact that you have saints that ppl pary to is just wrong,it's like if i pray to freaking moses or jona(who as you believe lived in a fish for three days XD...sorry it's just funny)
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Re: Ravings of a Mad White Man
by Torigoma Tue Mar 17, 2009 6:36 am
you know what that maybe i can agree with but the fact that you have saints that ppl pary to is just wrong,it's like if i pray to freaking moses or jona(who as you believe lived in a fish for three days XD...sorry it's just funny)
LOL Yes this is Very Funny, but this is also Not Christian, It's Catholic who are not Christian (wither they want to admit it or not*), I'm A Independent Fundamental Bible-Believing Baptist (yes I know a very long name lol ^_^).
*http://www.jesus-is-lord.com/cath.htm
http://www.ianpaisley.org/tiara.asp
http://www.davidmacd.com/catholic/are_catholics_christian.htm
http://www.carm.org/religious-movements/roman-catholicism/are-roman-catholics-christian
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Re: Ravings of a Mad White Man
by Ayaname Tue Mar 17, 2009 6:40 am
tori im sorry im not gonna click any of the links you posted lolz...
now ask me what i believe in^^
now ask me what i believe in^^
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Re: Ravings of a Mad White Man
by Torigoma Tue Mar 17, 2009 6:54 am
Lol the Links are just showing how they are Diffrent, If you realy want to know WHY someone belives in something, you must first be willing to understand WHAT they belive.
So what do you belive (please don't say you gona be a tree[yes there are some athists that belive in rencarnation], because if you do I'm gona have to tell a Joke on that one, It's just too easy, Sorry).
So what do you belive (please don't say you gona be a tree[yes there are some athists that belive in rencarnation], because if you do I'm gona have to tell a Joke on that one, It's just too easy, Sorry).
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Re: Ravings of a Mad White Man
by AiKirikaX Tue Mar 17, 2009 7:11 am
too bad... thats exactly what he believes in tori XD
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by Torigoma Tue Mar 17, 2009 7:22 am
O_O Funny Kiri, but please, Like I've said, No Roasting, even something very small (unless they are alright with it [the small stuff])
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by AiKirikaX Tue Mar 17, 2009 7:32 am
i dont know what you mean... i didnt said anything bad... ö.ö;
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Re: Ravings of a Mad White Man
by Ayaname Tue Mar 17, 2009 7:40 am
well kiri is like half right.
I myself am a Buddhist and I believe that everyone reincarnates if it is a reincarnation to a form of a person animal or a tree (and yes it will be funny if I reincarnate into a tree and they chop me down into paper and print the bible on me im a Dane cook fan as well).
The reason you reincarnate is because you do not reach a state of nirvana which is reached through meditation (in most cases).
Everyone in the world is a “god” but not in the biblical way, it’s just a higher state of consciousness.
Buddhism is not a religion or a philisophi, it is a way of life as the Buddha said “it is not the believer that is the Buddhist but the doer”.
I myself am a Buddhist and I believe that everyone reincarnates if it is a reincarnation to a form of a person animal or a tree (and yes it will be funny if I reincarnate into a tree and they chop me down into paper and print the bible on me im a Dane cook fan as well).
The reason you reincarnate is because you do not reach a state of nirvana which is reached through meditation (in most cases).
Everyone in the world is a “god” but not in the biblical way, it’s just a higher state of consciousness.
Buddhism is not a religion or a philisophi, it is a way of life as the Buddha said “it is not the believer that is the Buddhist but the doer”.
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Re: Ravings of a Mad White Man
by Torigoma Tue Mar 17, 2009 8:02 am
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Christianity is not a religion either, it's a Lifestyle, Christian Means "Chirst Like", thoght many who Clame to be Christian do not so this (I my self was like this before I found Jesus), I tell you they are not, they are hypocrites that are trying to justify thier actions behide false belifes, thats why there are so many "denomanations" of Christianity (thoght these are not realy Christianity at all), They try and twist and Mold God's word to fit there own view, try to find loopholes, and try to fake, all this does is it makes them sadder, and drives other away from God.
Here's a Review of TURE Christian Fundamental Bible believing Baptist Church,warnning It's alot.
don't realy listion to this guy, not realy my Style, but I heard this on one of his commercials, and have been waiting for sometime to say it, took my thunder man, just took it away lol, j/k(and yes it will be funny if I reincarnate into a tree and they chop me down into paper and print the bible on me im a Dane cook fan as well).
Christianity is not a religion either, it's a Lifestyle, Christian Means "Chirst Like", thoght many who Clame to be Christian do not so this (I my self was like this before I found Jesus), I tell you they are not, they are hypocrites that are trying to justify thier actions behide false belifes, thats why there are so many "denomanations" of Christianity (thoght these are not realy Christianity at all), They try and twist and Mold God's word to fit there own view, try to find loopholes, and try to fake, all this does is it makes them sadder, and drives other away from God.
Here's a Review of TURE Christian Fundamental Bible believing Baptist Church,warnning It's alot.
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- CHRISTIANITY:The belief that God's own son Defeated death once and for all.By calling on his name, I too can break the chains of death. He then becomes my Lord, not master,I'm not a slave, I am a son, an hire To the kingdom.Christ did not save me from an evil Force, He saved me from myself, Not just because a rib-woman ate a piece of fruit. But because I have sinned, I've messed up, but Thru his sacrifice, I too can be holy. He took apon himself the sins of the entire world, past and present, and die so that we would not have to, he was beaten and Scarred and spat apon for my sins, and did so with LOVE, that i may know him. But not just that he died for my sin, but that he Rose again on the third day, and in the same manner will he rasie me also into his loveing arms.
1. Holy Scriptures:
The Holy Scriptures, Old and New Testaments, are the written Word of God, given by divine inspiration through holy men of God who spoke and wrote as they were moved by the Holy Spirit. In this Word, God has committed to man the knowledge necessary for salvation. The Holy Scriptures are the infallible revelation of His will. They are the standard of character, the test of experience, the authoritative revealer of doctrines, and the trustworthy record of God's acts in history. (2 Peter 1:20, 21; 2 Tim. 3:16, 17; Ps. 119:105; Prov. 30:5, 6; Isa. 8:20; John 17:17; 1 Thess. 2:13; Heb. 4:12.) There is one God: Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, a unity of three co-eternal Persons. God is immortal, all-powerful, all-knowing, above all, and ever present. He is infinite and beyond human comprehension, yet known through His self-revelation. He is forever worthy of worship, adoration, and service by the whole creation. (Deut. 6:4; Matt. 28:19; 2 Cor. 13:14; Eph. 4:4-6; 1 Peter 1:2; 1 Tim. 1:17; Rev. 14:7.)
3. Father:
God the eternal Father is the Creator, Source, Sustainer, and Sovereign of all creation. He is just and holy, merciful and gracious, slow to anger, and abounding in steadfast love and faithfulness. The qualities and powers exhibited in the Son and the Holy Spirit are also revelations of the Father. (Gen. 1:1; Rev. 4:11; 1 Cor. 15:28; John 3:16; 1 John 4:8; 1 Tim. 1:17; Ex. 34:6, 7; John 14:9.)
4. Son:
God the eternal Son became incarnate in Jesus Christ. Through Him all things were created, the character of God is revealed, the salvation of humanity is accomplished, and the world is judged. Forever truly God, He became also truly man, Jesus the Christ. He was conceived of the Holy Spirit and born of the virgin Mary. He lived and experienced temptation as a human being, but perfectly exemplified the righteousness and love of God. By His miracles He manifested God's power and was attested as God's promised Messiah. He suffered and died voluntarily on the cross for our sins and in our place, was raised from the dead, and ascended to minister in the heavenly sanctuary in our behalf. He will come again in glory for the final deliverance of His people and the restoration of all things. (John 1:1-3, 14; Col. 1:15-19; John 10:30; 14:9; Rom. 6:23; 2 Cor. 5:17-19; John 5:22; Luke 1:35; Phil. 2:5-11; Heb. 2:9-18; 1 Cor. 15:3, 4; Heb. 8:1, 2; John 14:1-3.)
5. Holy Spirit:
God the eternal Spirit was active with the Father and the Son in Creation, incarnation, and redemption. He inspired the writers of Scripture. He filled Christ's life with power. He draws and convicts human beings; and those who respond He renews and transforms into the image of God. Sent by the Father and the Son to be always with His children, He extends spiritual gifts to the church, empowers it to bear witness to Christ, and in harmony with the Scriptures leads it into all truth. (Gen. 1:1, 2; Luke 1:35; 4:18; Acts 10:38; 2 Peter 1:21; 2 Cor. 3:18; Eph. 4:11, 12; Acts 1:8; John 14:16-18, 26; 15:26, 27; 16:7-13.)
7. Nature of Man:
Man and woman were made in the image of God with individuality, the power and freedom to think and to do. Though created free beings, each is an indivisible unity of body, mind, and spirit, dependent upon God for life and breath and all else. When our first parents disobeyed God, they denied their dependence upon Him and fell from their high position under God. The image of God in them was marred and they became subject to death. Their descendants share this fallen nature and its consequences. They are born with weaknesses and tendencies to evil. But God in Christ reconciled the world to Himself and by His Spirit restores in penitent mortals the image of their Maker. Created for the glory of God, they are called to love Him and one another, and to care for their environment. (Gen. 1:26-28; 2:7; Ps. 8:4-8; Acts 17:24-28; Gen. 3; Ps. 51:5; Rom. 5:12-17; 2 Cor. 5:19, 20; Ps. 51:10; 1 John 4:7, 8, 11, 20; Gen. 2:15.)
9. Life, Death, and Resurrection of Christ:
In Christ's life of perfect obedience to God's will, His suffering, death, and resurrection, God provided the only means of atonement for human sin, so that those who by faith accept this atonement may have eternal life, and the whole creation may better understand the infinite and holy love of the Creator. This perfect atonement vindicates the righteousness of God's law and the graciousness of His character; for it both condemns our sin and provides for our forgiveness. The death of Christ is substitutionary and expiatory, reconciling and transforming. The resurrection of Christ proclaims God's triumph over the forces of evil, and for those who accept the atonement assures their final victory over sin and death. It declares the Lordship of Jesus Christ, before whom every knee in heaven and on earth will bow. (John 3:16; Isa. 53; 1 Peter 2:21, 22; 1 Cor. 15:3, 4, 20-22; 2 Cor. 5:14, 15, 19-21; Rom. 1:4; 3:25; 4:25; 8:3, 4; 1 John 2:2; 4:10; Col. 2:15; Phil. 2:6-11.)
10. Experience of Salvation:
In infinite love and mercy God made Christ, who knew no sin, to be sin for us, so that in Him we might be made the righteousness of God. Led by the Holy Spirit we sense our need, acknowledge our sinfulness, repent of our transgressions, and exercise faith in Jesus as Lord and Christ, as Substitute and Example. This faith which receives salvation comes through the divine power of the Word and is the gift of God's grace. Through Christ we are justified, adopted as God's sons and daughters, and delivered from the lordship of sin. Through the Spirit we are born again and sanctified; the Spirit renews our minds, writes God's law of love in our hearts, and we are given the power to live a holy life. Abiding in Him we become partakers of the divine nature and have the assurance of salvation now and in the judgment. (2 Cor. 5:17-21; John 3:16; Gal. 1:4; 4:4-7; Titus 3:3-7; John 16:8; Gal. 3:13, 14; 1 Peter 2:21, 22; Rom. 10:17; Luke 17:5; Mark 9:23, 24; Eph. 2:5-10; Rom. 3:21-26; Col. 1:13, 14; Rom. 8:14-17; Gal. 3:26; John 3:3-8; 1 Peter 1:23; Rom. 12:2; Heb. 8:7-12; Eze. 36:25-27; 2 Peter 1:3, 4; Rom. 8:1-4; 5:6-10.)
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Re: Ravings of a Mad White Man
by Torigoma Tue Mar 17, 2009 8:02 am
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- 14. Unity in the Body of Christ:
The church is one body with many members, called from every nation, kindred, tongue, and people. In Christ we are a new creation; distinctions of race, culture, learning, and nationality, and differences between high and low, rich and poor, male and female, must not be divisive among us. We are all equal in Christ, who by one Spirit has bonded us into one fellowship with Him and with one another; we are to serve and be served without partiality or reservation. Through the revelation of Jesus Christ in the Scriptures we share the same faith and hope, and reach out in one witness to all. This unity has its source in the oneness of the triune God, who has adopted us as His children. (Rom. 12:4, 5; 1 Cor. 12:12-14; Matt. 28:19, 20; Ps. 133:1; 2 Cor. 5:16, 17; Acts 17:26, 27; Gal. 3:27, 29; Col. 3:10-15; Eph. 4:14-16; 4:1-6; John 17:20-23.)
19. Law of God:
The great principles of God's law are embodied in the Ten Commandments and exemplified in the life of Christ. They express God's love, will, and purposes concerning human conduct and relationships and are binding upon all people in every age. These precepts are the basis of God's covenant with His people and the standard in God's judgment. Through the agency of the Holy Spirit they point out sin and awaken a sense of need for a Saviour. Salvation is all of grace and not of works, but its fruitage is obedience to the Commandments. This obedience develops Christian character and results in a sense of well-being. It is an evidence of our love for the Lord and our concern for our fellow men. The obedience of faith demonstrates the power of Christ to transform lives, and therefore strengthens Christian witness. (Ex. 20:1-17; Ps. 40:7, 8; Matt. 22:36-40; Deut. 28:1-14; Matt. 5:17-20; Heb. 8:8-10; John 15:7-10; Eph. 2:8-10; 1 John 5:3; Rom. 8:3, 4; Ps. 19:7-14.)
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Re: Ravings of a Mad White Man
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We are called to be a godly people who think, feel, and act in harmony with the principles of heaven. For the Spirit to recreate in us the character of our Lord we involve ourselves only in those things which will produce Christlike purity, health, and joy in our lives. This means that our amusement and entertainment should meet the highest standards of Christian taste and beauty. While recognizing cultural differences, our dress is to be simple, modest, and neat, befitting those whose true beauty does not consist of outward adornment but in the imperishable ornament of a gentle and quiet spirit. It also means that because our bodies are the temples of the Holy Spirit, we are to care for them intelligently. Along with adequate exercise and rest, we are to adopt the most healthful diet possible and abstain from the unclean foods identified in the Scriptures. Since alcoholic beverages, tobacco, and the irresponsible use of drugs and narcotics are harmful to our bodies, we are to abstain from them as well. Instead, we are to engage in whatever brings our thoughts and bodies into the discipline of Christ, who desires our wholesomeness, joy, and goodness. (Rom. 12:1, 2; 1 John 2:6; Eph. 5:1-21; Phil. 4:8; 2 Cor. 10:5; 6:14-7:1; 1 Peter 3:1-4; 1 Cor. 6:19, 20; 10:31; Lev. 11:1-47; 3 John 2.)
25. Second Coming of Christ:
The second coming of Christ is the blessed hope of the church, the grand climax of the gospel. The Saviour's coming will be literal, personal, visible, and worldwide. When He returns, the righteous dead will be resurrected, and together with the righteous living will be glorified and taken to heaven, but the unrighteous will die. The almost complete fulfillment of most lines of prophecy, together with the present condition of the world, indicates that Christ's coming is imminent. The time of that event has not been revealed, and we are therefore exhorted to be ready at all times. (Titus 2:13; Heb. 9:28; John 14:1-3; Acts 1:9-11; Matt. 24:14; Rev. 1:7; Matt. 24:43, 44; 1 Thess. 4:13-18; 1 Cor. 15:51-54; 2 Thess. 1:7-10; 2:8; Rev. 14:14-20; 19:11-21; Matt. 24; Mark 13; Luke 21; 2 Tim. 3:1-5; 1 Thess. 5:1-6.)
26. Death and Resurrection:
The wages of sin is death. But God, who alone is immortal, will grant eternal life to His redeemed. Until that day death is an unconscious state for all people. When Christ, who is our life, appears, the resurrected righteous and the living righteous will be glorified and caught up to meet their Lord. The second resurrection, the resurrection of the unrighteous, will take place a thousand years later. (Rom. 6:23; 1 Tim. 6:15, 16; Eccl. 9:5, 6; Ps. 146:3, 4; John 11:11-14; Col. 3:4; 1 Cor. 15:51-54; 1 Thess. 4:13-17; John 5:28, 29; Rev. 20:1-10.)
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Re: Ravings of a Mad White Man
by AiKirikaX Tue Mar 17, 2009 8:04 am
there is the spoiler feature for biggish big texts... pls use it...
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Re: Ravings of a Mad White Man
by Ayaname Tue Mar 17, 2009 8:05 am
the only thing i have to say is that their is no way i am reading this...sorry dude.lolz
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Re: Ravings of a Mad White Man
by Torigoma Tue Mar 17, 2009 8:07 am
Ya I was Just about to do that,
To: Ayan, ^_^ ya looked like less on the Site, I'll cut out some of the more commonly known parts.
To: Ayan, ^_^ ya looked like less on the Site, I'll cut out some of the more commonly known parts.
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Re: Ravings of a Mad White Man
by Torigoma Tue Mar 17, 2009 8:17 am
It's Still alot, but I've cut it Down
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Re: Ravings of a Mad White Man
by Haruko Tue Mar 17, 2009 11:43 am
I never understood the arguments of religion... There's really no point. It's a belief, an idea, hope. Whether there is a Higher Power or not, whether he/she is white, black, bovine, or a star, it's someone's belief that this exists. I'm a very scientific person, but I've never been one to go around and question others on what they believe in? It'll either make someone else lose all hope and feel horrible, or bite me in the arse in the afterlife.
Either way, nothing too great comes from it...
And don't get me wrong, I'm not criticizing anyone for questioning another's idea of this Higher Power, I'm just not one to think anything of it.
What happens will happen, whether I believe it or not.
Either way, nothing too great comes from it...
And don't get me wrong, I'm not criticizing anyone for questioning another's idea of this Higher Power, I'm just not one to think anything of it.
What happens will happen, whether I believe it or not.
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Re: Ravings of a Mad White Man
by Ayaname Tue Mar 17, 2009 7:41 pm
well haruko i am very scientific as well and im not questioning im just asking for my own benefit and understanding.
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