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Post by theshadow99 Thu Jan 08, 2009 8:23 pm

This is the next contest idea, which hopefully will inspire some people...

I currently have 2 mil ryo earmarked for this, and I'm thinking of finding the top 5 chunin... Each of which will get 400k (2 mil/5). It's not just pure damage as I saw in Current's chunin contest, as TNR isn't just about damage output... Each chunin will face off against my ryo alt (3k gens, 90k weapon offense except for 3k weapon def, lvl 1 SJ jutsu). And I'm thinking I'll try to have it on a weekend and have people come here to 'register' for a certain time of day...

How does that sound? o.o
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Post by Tenrai Thu Jan 08, 2009 9:33 pm

Too bad I'm not chuunin anymore :/ Any chance you would be holding "strongest jounin" -contest also? :p
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Post by mightynice2008 Thu Jan 08, 2009 10:04 pm

whats the idea? Altough im currently training now.. I should check if I can be in top 5..
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Post by theshadow99 Thu Jan 08, 2009 10:24 pm

Tenrai, I plan on doing one of those later on... I'm not made of ryo for contests xD
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Post by Tenrai Thu Jan 08, 2009 10:46 pm

Yeah I know that ^^'' I was just thinking if there was something for me to look forward to xP I'm pretty sure that I'd rank to the top 5 but not that sure if I'll be 1st ^^''
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Post by Thalion1 Thu Jan 08, 2009 11:49 pm

sign me in Cool
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Post by daisuke Fri Jan 09, 2009 2:00 am

How can you see which is the stronger?
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Post by AiKirikaX Fri Jan 09, 2009 2:03 am

maybe by the damage they deal?
or the diffrence between damage dealt and damage taken?? ö_Ö
or... i dont know... =P
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Post by Ryuku Fri Jan 09, 2009 5:50 am

daisuke wrote:How can you see which is the stronger?

When one person deals 50k damage, and another deals 5k...its obvious, it'll be easy to tell.
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Post by theshadow99 Fri Jan 09, 2009 11:12 am

I pretty well explained how I'm doing the testing to find the 5 strongest participating chunin... o.0

They face my ryo alt in battle... who is much more like a chunin in stats for all she's a SJ.... since stats aren't terribly important to a ryo alt... and with her only defense being weapon defense... it's about the best platform for running this I could think of...
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Post by Tenrai Fri Jan 09, 2009 11:36 am

Um... you are going to take the avarage damage of each person, am I right?
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Post by theshadow99 Fri Jan 09, 2009 11:53 am

yes... I need at least three rounds... otherwise I have no real sample size....
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Post by daisuke Sat Jan 10, 2009 2:25 am

Mmmmm... I'm weak.. But i'd like to try... Sign me in, Kage =)
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Post by Gooch Wed Jan 14, 2009 9:03 am

Could I get my Chuunin in there? It's in Current, but I'm curious as to how well it would do compared to Shines Chuunin.
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Post by theshadow99 Wed Jan 14, 2009 9:11 am

maybe... though you could just always ask to spar me on my alt Gooch xD
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Post by jinzen Wed Jan 14, 2009 10:26 am

Hey i'm nu here in ShineHQ heard u were low on contestants sign me in... i did not sign in before cuz u didnt give a specific date Shines got got strong chunin im as surprise as u they did not sign up yet?
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Post by ColdSlayer Wed Jan 14, 2009 10:14 pm

Err by damage they deal to a person with a hell of weapon defense as a Genjutsu user I`m with both chars for! However I use defensive builds for both my chars. I`d suggest a spars. Lets make it a tournament.
2 wins in 3 spars will make you a winner.
Sign Hayate in I know he has low chances of even getting 5th place however if it is for sake of the contest...
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Post by Tenrai Wed Jan 14, 2009 10:36 pm

Even if you have a ton of defense... You'll do almost nothing compared to offense-build... And against it you'd most likely loose... Well that's just my oppinion, I won't explain myself because there are things that need to be figured out by yourself.
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Post by ColdSlayer Wed Jan 14, 2009 11:34 pm

There is trick in not in getting 0 damage from anyone its on surviving the first round and hope that you`ll stun your opponent. However having a less damage received from weaker opponents(the ones that you`ll defeat in one turn anyway) seems a good idea in general to me.
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Post by Tenrai Wed Jan 14, 2009 11:47 pm

"ALMOST nothing"
That said what you were saying doesn't matter ^^
And this thing you say probably hasn't been fully tested? I'm like 80% sure that it's false because they didn't even implement something where different elements would be strong against eachother when using jutsus. They were going to, but didn't.

Nontheless, having less damage from weaker opponents doesn't necessarily mean that you'll have less damage from strong opponents..

And you lost my point.
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Post by theshadow99 Thu Jan 15, 2009 12:13 am

making it a tournament is more work to do (you have to create a list of matchups) & also people can just get unlucky... a single opponent everyone faces is more fair...
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Post by ColdSlayer Thu Jan 15, 2009 12:21 am

Ok I guess the example is needed.
Spar ColdSlayer vs DarkFyre some days ago my SoundlessSound (lvl32) vs her Senbon Strike:
As far my 49.2K vs her 50K offense.
My defenses are at 18.2K each but I also spend a lot on secondary generals Smile Of course less then on main but it`s not just what is earned by missions.
Result 0 dmg received. Of course if we don`t count residual damage. Smile
Anyway defensive builds are kinda risky thing but they still have their right on the existence. Especially for a genjutsu users.
And against stronger it works the same if it is fated for you to lose you`ll lose anyway. But in defending a village defensive build works just fine.

To answer a kage`s post:
But where will we get a char with all defences and generals even for a fair contest. If only not asking some admin for help?
It is still a chance of unlucky chosen jutsu or offense disadvantage. Anyway with my both chars defense even, I have a difference in generals any Int/Will jutsu against me will be totally spoiled compared to other jutsus.
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Post by ColdSlayer Thu Jan 15, 2009 12:55 am

Anyway I was just thinking of random list tournament:
I guess It`s a bad influence from a GA Smile, but whatever if it makes a fair contest it doesn`t matter. A list of participating chunnins. A places are generated randomly.
Any chunnin in a table have a right of asking a spar with someone higher than they in the table and if asker win they switch places. In the end will have a list close to ideal that reveal the strength of the candidates.
I guess 5 battle minimal. I guess then even leaders in the tournament would ask some candidates for spar to get them. Just not hoping that going offline after received a first place in random decision will leave them this first place for doing nothing to prove it.(Such user I guess will be just disqualified)

However it requires a constant overseeing with modifying the table. It`s a hard work for a judges but it is possibly a best decision in a question of fair play.
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Post by Tenrai Thu Jan 15, 2009 3:51 am

Don't doublepost please. There is an edit button there for a reason ^^
Question: What are your generals and what are his? That's the most important thing there.
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Post by ColdSlayer Thu Jan 15, 2009 4:27 am

Tenrai,
Err... the posts had different reasons, main ideas and auditorium;
First to response to earlier said and it was already edit a quite times in the end. And is aimed to a two people directly.
Second was a suggestion about Contest. And has a full idea reveled within it. As couldn`t be just added just as a "P.S:" And is aimed for a discussion. (And for easier quoting if something)
But if you could not figure that out...

As for generals: I told you it`s not an option, it differs greatly after all it`s not just a hell of defense. It`s a reasonable defensive build.
ColdSlayer:
Strength: 5194.30
Intelligence: 32054.30
Speed: 13344.30
Willpower: 20304.30

Hayate:
Strength: 1744.00
Intelligence: 9854.00
Speed: 2754.00
Willpower: 5124.00

For both Int is a one that raises just on opportunity to.
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